Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2005 05:00 PM Senate FINANCE


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05:04:14 PM Start
05:09:14 PM HB67
06:29:57 PM Adjourn
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+= HB 66 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 67 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS/CBR TELECONFERENCED
Continuation of Statewide Public
Testimony (Public Testimony May Be
Limited to No More Than 3 Minutes)
5:00 pm Statewide Teleconference -
Off Net Sites
5:30 - 6:30 pm Juneau
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)                                                                                              
     "An Act making appropriations for the operating and capital                                                                
     expenses of the state's integrated comprehensive mental health                                                             
     program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 67(FIN)(brf sup maj fld)                                                                             
     "An Act making appropriations for the operating and loan                                                                   
     program expenses of state government, for certain programs,                                                                
     and to capitalize funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the fifth hearing  for these bills  in the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The Committee scheduled testimony from off-net sites and Juneau.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RON  SUMERVILLE, Member,  Board  of Game,  testified  in Juneau  and                                                            
shared that the  Board had formed a subcommittee to  review and make                                                            
recommendations   regarding  the  Board's  financial  difficulties;                                                             
particularly  as it affects the Wildlife  Conservation Division  and                                                            
"the Board  process itself". While  the Board has the authority  and                                                            
legal  tools  to  make  decisions  regarding  State  game  policies,                                                            
insufficient financial  support curbs the Board's ability to fulfill                                                            
its duties.  A March 23, 2005 letter  to Senator Ralph Seekins  from                                                            
the  Board  [copy  on file]  further  outlines  these  concerns.  In                                                            
addition, two maps [copies  on file] of active and proposed predator                                                            
control  areas in the  State were  provided. It  was noted that  the                                                            
aerial  wolf control  program has  provided positive  relief to  the                                                            
moose population in those selected areas.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sumerville  expressed  that, due to  financial constraints,  the                                                            
Board is unable to adequately  respond to advisory boards and others                                                            
requests for assistance  in such things as predator control and game                                                            
population  decrease/increase   studies.  In many  cases,  data  was                                                            
unavailable  from  which "to  make  a rational  judgment".  In  some                                                            
cases,  data  was  outdated.  This  is the  result  of  "the  budget                                                            
crunch".                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Somerville  noted that,  by  Statute,  the Board  must  address                                                            
Subsistence Management.  Implementation of the plan  has resulted in                                                            
"major conflicts" with  residents of the State and the Courts. While                                                            
the Board has endeavored  to improve the implementation of the State                                                            
Subsistence   Law,  minimal   funds  are   available  for   any  new                                                            
initiatives.  A supplemental  request for  $50,000 was submitted  to                                                            
fund  a new  initiative to  address  moose and  caribou subsistence                                                             
problems  in Nelchina Basin.  "There is not  enough money to  do the                                                            
job".                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:09:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sumerville,  while  acknowledging   that  numerous  boards  and                                                            
Departments are experiencing  budget reductions, explained that at a                                                            
recent four-day  Board meeting, Board  deliberations on regulations                                                             
was  limited  to  two  days as  two  days  were  devoted  to  public                                                            
testimony.  Two   days  are  "totally  inadequate"  for   conducting                                                            
regulation  deliberations. Many  items were  delayed until  the next                                                            
Board  meeting.   This  situation   further  inhibits  action.   The                                                            
aforementioned  letter  requests that  a licensing  fee increase  be                                                            
implemented  in order to  support Board programs.  In addition,  the                                                            
Board  is  requesting  that  the Legislature  fund  a  two-year  CIP                                                            
project  for operational  monies.  He  asked that  consideration  be                                                            
given to including this money in the operating budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:10:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde understood  there to be support for enabling the Board                                                            
to adequately conduct meetings.  The proposed licensing fee increase                                                            
legislation  might be in "limbo  due to no  fault" of the Board.  He                                                            
thanked  Mr.  Sumerville  for the  information  and  his  continuing                                                            
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:11:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILBUR   NAPAYONAK,   Mayor,    City   of   Koyuk,   testified   via                                                            
teleconference  from  offnet  site  and  requested   that  financial                                                            
assistance  be provided  "to small  villages  that are struggling".                                                             
Koyuk has attempted to  control expenses by downsizing police, fire,                                                            
and city administration.  In addition,  the community is  struggling                                                            
with fuel and  utility expenses and has an outstanding  $39,000 fuel                                                            
bill.  In  order to  get  a  spring fuel  shipment,  money  must  be                                                            
available. None is. The  community currently has enough fuel to last                                                            
until September.  The low  revenues generated  by the local  tax are                                                            
insufficient to meet needs,  and, while the community is considering                                                            
increasing utility rates,  this also would not provide the necessary                                                            
funds. The community has  exerted a lot of effort to stay viable and                                                            
not become  a statistic.  He encouraged  the State  to provide  some                                                            
form of financial assistance to small communities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  thanked the  Mayor for his  comments and stated  that                                                            
the Legislature  is "struggling  to find new  sources of revenue  to                                                            
deal with demands for State spending".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:15:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSLYN GOODMAN  testified via teleconference from  an offnet site in                                                            
Petrol  Bay  and  asked  the  Committee  to  support  the  House  of                                                            
Representatives recommendation  to include $375,000 in the operating                                                            
budget for  the Division of Libraries,  Museums, and Archives.  "The                                                            
State Library provides  benefits to everyone in the State regardless                                                            
of  age, ethnicity,  and  economic status  particularly  in  smaller                                                            
communities". Adequate  funding allows for affordable fees, Internet                                                            
access,  and  enables small  community  libraries  to  expand  their                                                            
selections through a grant program.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:17:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE KAVA,  Mayor, Savoonga,  testified via  teleconference  from an                                                            
offnet   site  to  seek   financial  assistance   for  small   Rural                                                            
communities'  operating  costs.  Savoonga  has  had to  curtail  its                                                            
public safety  program and is having difficulty paying  for fuel and                                                            
utility expenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde responded  that  the  Legislature "is  attempting  to                                                            
prioritize the budget and stretch it as far" as possible.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:18:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELAINE PRICE,  Project Manager, City of Coffman Cove,  testified via                                                            
teleconference  from an offnet site and requested  financial aid for                                                            
small communities. This  aid would be welcome in any form, including                                                            
revenue sharing  or municipal assistance. The elimination  of aid to                                                            
small communities  by the  Governor Frank  Murkowski Administration                                                             
left small  communities  "in a  lurch". Even  short-term  assistance                                                            
would  be welcome,  as  it would  provide  time  for restructuring.                                                             
Coffman Cove  has no means of self-support  as it does not  have the                                                            
authority to implement  taxation, and regardless, it is too small to                                                            
generate much revenue to  support local government expenses. Coffman                                                            
Cove residents work part-time,  have no benefits; there is no Public                                                            
Employees Retirement  System (PERS) and Teacher's  Retirement System                                                            
(TRS) benefits. The community  needs help. The State once encouraged                                                            
small  communities.   In  addition,  she  voiced  support   for  the                                                            
inclusion  of the  Division  of Libraries  $375,000  funding in  the                                                            
budget. Coffman Cove's  library is an integral part of the community                                                            
and the Library  grant allows the  community to "keep the  lights on                                                            
and the computers going".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde reiterated  that the  Legislature  is "struggling  to                                                            
find additional  funds for  State services  and to prioritize  those                                                            
services".  He likened the  current situation  to "robbing  Peter to                                                            
pay Paul".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  inquired as  to how long  the Coffman Cove  request                                                            
for a new  school has been  on the list.  In addition, he  asked the                                                            
community's  position on  the proposed  State land  transfer to  the                                                            
University of Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Price  voiced that  while the  community is  a supporter  of the                                                            
University,  it is not  in favor  of how the  Department of  Natural                                                            
Resources  land selection  was  conducted.  There should  have  been                                                            
public input. The Coffman  Cove request for a new school has been on                                                            
the list since 1987. General  Obligation bonds provided money to the                                                            
community   for   design  and   engineering,   but   no  money   for                                                            
construction.  The school has been housed in portable  buildings for                                                            
30 years.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked  whether  Coffman  Cove  is  included  in  the                                                            
Southeast Islands School District.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Price affirmed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:22:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNNE JENSEN,  Gustavus resident, testified via teleconference  from                                                            
an offnet site  and voiced support for the House recommendation  for                                                            
the  Division  of Libraries,  Archives  &  Museums,  which  provides                                                            
support to small Rural  community libraries. Overall State reduction                                                            
in communities'  financial support has required communities  to rely                                                            
on the Division even more.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 5:23:59 PM / 5:25:00 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:25:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL TSEU,  Juneau Community Charter School, testified  in Juneau                                                            
and requested  increased funding  for small  charter schools  of 150                                                            
students or less.  Under current school funding laws,  small charter                                                            
schools are funded  at approximately 84-percent of  the base student                                                            
allocation.  He  asked that  the amount  proposed  in  the House  of                                                            
Representatives budget be considered in the Senate.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 5:26:20 PM / 5:26:38 PM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CATHERINE  REARDON, Juneau  Community Charter  School, testified  in                                                            
Juneau and asked that the  Senate adopt the House of Representatives                                                            
funding recommendation  for small  charter schools. Currently  small                                                            
charter  schools  receive  less  money  per child  than  the  amount                                                            
allotted to other  schools. "This makes charter schools  unrealistic                                                            
for small communities",  even communities  the size of Juneau.  As a                                                            
parent,  the charter  school  is an  important option  and  provides                                                            
parents  a  choice  in their  child's  education.  Grant  money,  as                                                            
similarly provided in last  year's operating budget, allowed the per                                                            
student  funding percentage  to increase.  However, that  percentage                                                            
would  continue to  be less  than  student funding  percentages  for                                                            
standard elementary schools,  as depicted on the handout titled Sec.                                                            
14.17.450.  School size  factor" [copy  on file].  Were the  funding                                                            
increased,  charter schools, while  still operating with  20-percent                                                            
less  funding  than other  elementary  schools,  would  be able  "to                                                            
survive".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  voiced disappointment  that charter schools  continue                                                            
to struggle with  funding issues. He urged the testifier  to look at                                                            
the Mat-Su  School District  operations "as  they find more  funding                                                            
for their charter schools  than the Anchorage School District does".                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Reardon stressed  there  being  no desire  that  other  schools                                                            
funding decreases as a  result of charter schools "existence". Under                                                            
the current  student foundation funding  formula, school  "districts                                                            
are actually  punished  financially  for authorizing  small  charter                                                            
schools" for were the charter  schools students enrolled in standard                                                            
schools, "the  State would be sending  more money" to the  district.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  stated that  this information  would be added  to the                                                            
Legislature's  "on-going   task  of prioritizing   and  seeking  new                                                            
funding sources".                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
EMILY NEEDEN, Alaska Government  Relations Director, American Cancer                                                            
Society,  testified in  Juneau and  asked the  Committee to  restore                                                            
funding for the  breast and cervical cancer early  detection program                                                            
to the Governor's proposed  budget level of $1.8 million. This would                                                            
fund screening  for low income, un-insured, and underinsured  women.                                                            
These  people  otherwise would  be  required  to either  forego  the                                                            
screening  or make  serious choices.  The program  "has been  highly                                                            
successful" and early detection is crucial.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Needen   informed   that  the   American   Cancer  Society   is                                                            
contributing to  this program in that it partners  with the State to                                                            
pay for mammograms  for qualifying women between the  ages of 40 and                                                            
50. The  State program only  pays for screening  for women  over the                                                            
age of 50.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  commented  that  in  the  process   of establishing                                                             
priorities,  a focus is placed  on those  programs where people  are                                                            
willing "to provide some match or share". It is appreciated.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 5:33:23 PM / 5:34:03 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:36:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: Due  to audio difficulties,  the  following two testifiers',                                                             
STANLEY TOCKTOO and FRED  GOODHOPE, JR., remarks were indiscernible.                                                            
Their testimony was immediately  faxed to the Committee as follows.]                                                            
                                                                                                                                
STANLEY  TOCKTOO,  Mayor,  Community  of  Shishmaref  testified  via                                                            
teleconference from an  offnet site and asked that funding for an x-                                                            
ray machine  be included in  HB 66. "Most  of our young natives  are                                                            
caught  too late  for cancer.  It  would be  nice to  have an  x-ray                                                            
machine  at NSRH (Nome)  to catch  cancer or  other diseases  sooner                                                            
before any medical treatment cannot help them".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FRED GOODHOPE,  JR. Vice-Mayor, Community  of Shishmaref,  testified                                                            
via teleconference from  an offnet site and requested that a loan of                                                            
some sort  be provided in  order for the  community to avoid  filing                                                            
for bankruptcy. "Shishmaref  is a small, second-class community that                                                            
is struggling  to stay afloat in a sea of bills and  trying to catch                                                            
up with IRS payments".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 5:38:45 PM / 5:39:23 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KATHY WASSERMAN,  Alaska Municipal League (AML) testified  in Juneau                                                            
and requested  that the Committee  include money for municipalities                                                             
operating expenses  in the budget. The State system's  encouragement                                                            
of  communities  to  apply for  capital  budget  requests  to  build                                                            
things,  in  effect,  serves  to increase  the  costs  of  operating                                                            
communities.   While  many  communities  "have  been   diligent"  in                                                            
building their infrastructure  and enhancing the living standards of                                                            
their residents,  they now "find themselves in a position"  of being                                                            
required  to pay  for more  things. It  would be  very difficult  to                                                            
operate independent  of State government  assistance at this  point.                                                            
This is similar  to the difficulty  the State would face  were it to                                                            
attempt  to  operate  without  federal  government  assistance.  She                                                            
reminded  that  in  1998,  State  revenue  sharing   to communities                                                             
amounted  to $27 million.  AML would be available  to work  with the                                                            
Legislature to determine  an amount that would be acceptable to both                                                            
the Legislature and communities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde conveyed the  message of  Congressional Senator  Lisa                                                            
Murkowski that we should  be "starting to prepare to have this State                                                            
run without  so much  federal money".  He asked  that AML assist  in                                                            
identifying  new  revenue  sources  for,  in order  to  honor  their                                                            
request, funds would be removed from another component.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wasserman acknowledged.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked that  AML "be part of the solution" by providing                                                            
a list  of reductions  they would  support in  order to receive  the                                                            
requested funding "or what revenue source they would support".                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wasserman acknowledged                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  communicated that  it is "a struggle" to  determine                                                            
how to assist small communities.  He noted that legislation is being                                                            
advanced  to assist  communities with  such things  as the  PERS/TRS                                                            
premium  increases.   In  addition,  AML  is  requesting   municipal                                                            
assistance.  Therefore, he asked whether  AML is more interested  in                                                            
municipal assistance,  the PERS/TRS  issue, or whether it  should be                                                            
considered as "one pot".                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wasserman asked that  consideration be giving "to a breakdown of                                                            
the combination of those  things as one single solution might not be                                                            
appropriate  for all communities.  Providing  PERS/TRS relief  would                                                            
help  many communities  but  not all;  providing  tax exemptions  to                                                            
senior citizens  and veterans would help others. She  suggested that                                                            
a list be developed and commonalities identified.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 5:46:20 PM / 6:14:42 PM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken assumed chair of the meeting.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken acknowledged  the  receipt of  the faxed  testimony                                                            
from Stanley Tocktoo and Fred Goodhope from Shishmaref.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Name  Indiscernible],  Shishmaref  Council  Member,  testified  via                                                            
teleconference  from an offnet site and informed the  Committee that                                                            
the community  of Shishmaref  must be relocated.  To that point,  he                                                            
asked whether  funds could  be included in  the operating budget  to                                                            
assist with that endeavor when it occurs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken understood  that moving  the community  would  be a                                                            
"major expense"  of approximately  $100,000,000.  While there  is no                                                            
provision for  the relocation in the  FY 06 State operating  budget,                                                            
efforts  are being  furthered to  acquire federal  money. Money  was                                                            
previously provided to begin the process.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 6:17:09 PM / 6:29:39 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further testifiers,  Co-Chair Wilken announced  that                                                            
this concludes public testimony on the operating budget.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:29:57 PM                                                                                                                    

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